passed those laws. new york is an example. connecticut is an example. but i think those will be partial solutions and i think they will leave things unprotected. it is hard to craft a compromise without eliminating the driver of the problem. >> just to make sure i understand you, you do not think -- you think there is not a solution? is it something that is going to be -- ? >> i do not think it is comprehensive. there are all kinds of solutions available, but there is always going to be somebody on the outside of the scope of that protection. you'll have fewer disputes if you have exemptions, but i do not think he will be able to track them all down. >> where will we be? >> i think sometimes there is the suggestion of alarm amazon.com -- the of alarmism, but think about it. the legal definition of marriage affects rights. it certainly does, including in religious institutions that cannot go along with that in conscience. that is the locus of the d broadly.escribe t because for a tactical reason it does